විකිපීඩියා:Templates for discussion/Holding cell

If process guidelines are met, move templates to the appropriate subsection here to prepare to delete. Before deleting a template, ensure that it is not in use on any pages (other than talk pages where eliminating the link would change the meaning of a prior discussion), by checking Special:Whatlinkshere for '(transclusion)'. Consider placing {{Being deleted}} on the template page.

Tools

There are several tools that can help when implementing TfDs. Some of these are listed below.

• Template linking and transclusion check – Toolforge tool to see which pages are transcluded but not linked from or to a template
• WhatLinksHereSnippets.js – user script that allows for template use to be viewed from the Special:WhatLinksHere page
• AutoWikiBrowser – semi-automatic editor that can replace or modify templates using regular expressions
• Bots – robots editing automatically. All tasks have to be approved before operating. There are currently five bots with general approval to assist with implementing TfD outcomes:
  • AnomieBOT – substituting templates via User:AnomieBOT/TFDTemplateSubster
  • SporkBot – general TfD implementation run by Plastikspork
  • PrimeBOT – general TfD implementation run by Primefac
  • BsherrAWBBOT – general TfD implementation run by Bsherr
  • PearBOT II – general TfD implementation run by Trialpears

Closing discussions

The closing procedures are outlined at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Closing instructions.

To review

Templates for which each transclusion requires individual attention and analysis before the template is deleted.

• Module:Ds/aware2023 October 16 – Module:Ds/aware ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
• Template:Chitral-Union-Councils2023 November 19 – Chitral-Union-Councils ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
• Template:Kohistan-Union-Councils2023 November 27 – Kohistan-Union-Councils ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )

To merge

Templates to be merged into another template.

Infoboxes

• Merge into the singular {{infobox ship}} (currently a redirect):
  • Template:Infobox_ship_begin2022 April 30 – Infobox_ship_begin ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
  • Template:Infobox_ship_career2022 April 30 – Infobox_ship_career ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
  • Template:Infobox_ship_characteristics2022 April 30 – Infobox_ship_characteristics ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
  • Template:Infobox_ship_class_overview2022 April 30 – Infobox_ship_class_overview ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
  • Template:Infobox_ship_image2022 April 30 – Infobox_ship_image ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
  • Template:Infobox_service_record2022 April 30 – Infobox_service_record ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )

    I have hacked Module:Infobox ship which implements ship infoboxen without the external wikitable that the above templates require. Uses Module:Infobox; {{infobox ship begin}} is no longer required; parameter names are changed from sentence- to snake-case; section header height for career, characteristics, service record sections is normalized; custom fields are supported. I chose to retain the individual section templates as subtemplates:

    • {{Infobox ship/image}}
    • {{Infobox ship/career}}
    • {{Infobox ship/characteristic}}
    • {{Infobox ship/class}}
    • {{Infobox ship/service record}} – Module:Infobox ship implements only the 'ship' portion of {{Infobox service record}}

    In the main infobox these subtemplates are called with the |section<n>= parameters (aliases of |data<n>=).

    Comparisons between wikitable infoboxen and Module:Infobox ship infoboxen can bee seen at my sandbox (permalink).

    —Trappist the monk (talk) 14:57, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

    Since the intent is to use Module:Infobox directly, why is Module:Infobox ship being used to generate the infobox? I can understand if there is need for a backend module to validate a value or something, but is there really a reason to have this unique code? Gonnym (talk) 17:50, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

    The original complaint was that the ship infoboxen templates are table templates masquerading as infobox templates. None of those templates use Module:Infobox. Module:Infobox ship answers that complaint. Yeah, we still have subtemplates, but, in my opinion, that is a good thing because the appropriate parameters and their data are contained in each particular subtemplate. The container subtemplates make it relatively easy for an editor reading an article's wikitext to understand. The current ship infobox system allows sections in any order (except for the position of {{infobox ship begin}} – not needed with Module:Infobox ship); whatever the final outcome of this mess, that facility must not be lost.

    Module:Infobox ship does do some error checking (synonymous parameters |ship_armor= / |ship_armour=, |ship_draft= / |ship_draught=, |ship_honors= / |ship_honours=, and |ship_stricken= / |ship_struck=). Whether {{infobox ship}} directly calls Module:Infobox or whether {{infobox ship}} calls Module:Infobox ship which then calls Module:Infobox is really immaterial so long as the final rendered result is a correctly formatted infobox.

    —Trappist the monk (talk) 19:06, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

    @Trappist the monk are you still interested in working on this Module? If not, I'd like to try to get it finished myself. The massive deviation I had in mind was to make one invocation of the module do everything. Each page will require individual attention to complete the merge into a proper infobox anyway, so I reason to go the extra mile to make it nicer in general. Repeatable parameters will have the normal n number appended to the end of the parameter. An alternative would be to have subboxes for repeating sections, which would be easier in general to replace and implement. SWinxy (talk) 20:26, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

    Sure, but I don't think that this page is the proper place to discuss. Choose some place more proper and let me know where that is?

    —Trappist the monk (talk) 22:58, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

• Replacement with {{Infobox aircraft}}:
  • Template:Infobox_aircraft_type2023 January 22 – Infobox_aircraft_type ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
  • Template:Infobox_aircraft_career2023 January 22 – Infobox_aircraft_career ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
  • Template:Infobox_aircraft_program2023 January 22 – Infobox_aircraft_program ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
  • Template:Infobox_aircraft_begin2023 January 22 – Infobox_aircraft_begin ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases ) → {{Infobox aircraft}}
  • Template:Infobox_aircraft_engine2023 January 22 – Infobox_aircraft_engine ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases ) → {{Infobox aircraft}}
    • For {{Infobox aircraft engine}}, There is an ongoing discussion about whether the aircraft engine Infobox should be merged with the Infobox aircraft or not. Except for the engine Infobox, other Infoboxes can be orphaned and there are no objection for that. Prarambh20 (talk) 22:39, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
      • This discussion is still ongoing, so I have moved it back to the "to merge" list with the others. Primefac (talk) 10:09, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
      • The discussion has now ended (diff), with the consensus NOT TO MERGE {{Infobox aircraft engine}} with the others. However {{infobox aircraft begin}} may or may not end up being merged into {{Infobox aircraft engine}}. The template pages should be updated accordingly. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 10:07, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

Navigation templates

• None currently

Link templates

• Template:IOC profile2021 May 6 – IOC profile ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
  • Thankfully, the IOC URLs redirect. So I think this is the best course of action:
    1. Make a bot account that looks through transclusions. The bot will have to resolve the IOC URLs to get the new IDs and then use that data to merge the template.
    2. After that, make sure the template isn't duplicated.
  • A mere 2 years late, it's time to get this done. I'll get started on it. Snowmanonahoe (talk · contribs · typos) 01:31, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

    Bot task approved, now just waiting on implementation. Primefac (talk) 10:55, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

• Template:Bcdb2022 December 19 – Bcdb ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
• Template:BCDB_title2022 December 19 – BCDB_title ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
• Template:Lx2023 October 1 – Lx ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
• Template:Pagelinks2023 October 1 – Pagelinks ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
• Template:History of Canadian Broadcasting2023 November 23 – History of Canadian Broadcasting ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
  • new links are not directly resolvable. One way is to loop through the new site's wp-json search API to find the new URL and then after that swap out the URLs using the subst. – robertsky (talk) 02:01, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Other

• Template:Football_squad_player22020 February 1 – Football_squad_player2 ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases ) and Template:Football_squad_player2020 February 1 – Football_squad_player ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
  • Note Pending Redesign RfC robertsky (talk) 18:51, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
    • I've closed the RfC. Mdaniels5757 (talk) 15:15, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
  • At this point this is ready for large scale replacement. I said a while ago that I could do it but due to me being quite busy IRL this seems unlikely to get done in a timely manner. If you feel like doing a large scale replacement job feel free to take this one. --Trialpears (talk) 17:34, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
    • Trialpears, what large-scale replacement? I (foolishly?) jumped into this rabbit hole, and have been in it for over a day now. This is a very complex merge; I've got the documentation diff to show fewer differences, but there's still more to be done. – wbm1058 (talk) 15:04, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
• Template:Clickable_button2021 June 18 – Clickable_button ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases ) and Template:Clickable_button_22021 June 18 – Clickable_button_2 ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )

  I made a few changes to Module:Clickable button 2/sandbox that would combine the functionalities of the two different templates. Someone may want to review that. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 23:21, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

  MJL, as our resident expert on this module, what in-line changes need to be made to {{clickable button}} calls in order to get them working properly with the module? The /doc examples don't give a clear enough indication of the differences, and to me it looks like they run on the same syntax. සැකිල්ල:Ppor Primefac (talk) 11:55, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

  @Primefac: So, my current computer is bricked a la an upgrade to Windows 11. I'll have to get back to you on this until it gets fixed, sorry. සැකිල්ල:): –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 02:51, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

  සැකිල්ල:Bcc Friendly nudge. Primefac (talk) 13:08, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

  Thanks for the extra ping:

  The current main 2 blockers are #brackets and pipe in label and #URL placed as label. I am not sure how common the second thing is, but I know the first is a real thing that would break things like User:TheJJJunk/Backlog. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 02:58, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

  @MJL I've made a change to the sandbox which should fix the brackets and the pipe (tested it with only a limited amount of testcases). Take a look and hopefully that helps. Gonnym (talk) 10:27, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

  @Gonnym: It broke a lot of other things (#No link, #1st set nil; 2nd unset, and #Brackets around 1st) sadly. Though, it's definitely a good start! –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 16:22, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

  Okay, with the most recent changes, we're almost all set for a merge. {{Clickable button 2}} generates the button within the link while {{Clickable button}} never generated a link by itself, so I just got a run AWB or something to migrate current uses of {{Clickable button}} correctly. Give me a few days to get that done. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 18:52, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

  @MJL: Any updates? HouseBlaster^talk 18:51, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

  @HouseBlaster: Oh, um, shoot. Maybe someone else should take care of this? I seem to be terrible at following through with it. සැකිල්ල:): –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 19:59, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

• Template:Import-blanktable2022 July 4 – Import-blanktable ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases ) and Template:Row_hover_highlight2022 July 4 – Row_hover_highlight ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )

  Please see discussion on the details of the merge. HouseBlaster^talk 23:44, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

  Noting for the record that this is currently blocked by phab:T354015. HouseBlaster^talk 21:45, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

• Template:Auto_compact_TOC2023 March 6 – Auto_compact_TOC ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
• Template:Compact_TOC2023 March 6 – Compact_TOC ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
• Template:Confusion_matrix_terms2023 April 6 – Confusion_matrix_terms ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
• Template:Vital article2023 May 17 – Vital article ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases ) See follow-up discussion decision was made to merge into the shell heading rather than placing a banner within the shell.
• Template:Non-free_use_rationale_22023 June 17 – Non-free_use_rationale_2 ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
• Template:Non-free_use_rationale2023 June 17 – Non-free_use_rationale ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
• Template:Wikisource author2023 July 5 – Wikisource author ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
• Template:Wikisourcelang2023 July 5 – Wikisourcelang ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
  • Hi now that {{Wikisourcelang}} is being merged, how do I use the merge target template to point to sister language Wikisources? All the links keep incorrectly pointing to the English version and the documentation of {{Wikisource}} has not been updated about this. Folly Mox (talk) 20:16, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
    • Folly Mox, the merge has not yet been completed, so you should use the appropriate currently-existing template to do whatever it is you are planning until the merge is complete. The existing uses will be converted appropriately at that time. Primefac (talk) 09:00, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
      • Oops, I forgot I had posted here. My assertion was incorrectly based on the first instance I had tested, which had been misusing parameters in such a way that it worked prior to the start of the merge process but not afterwards. The links to en.s/lang:page do properly redirect if the parameters are used correctly, but I didn't initially follow the links to check. It was quite an embarrassing hour or so of my contribution history. Folly Mox (talk) 13:00, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
• Template:Wikisourcehas2023 July 5 – Wikisourcehas ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )

• I see I am not supposed to use {{Wikisourcehas}} on "additional pages" so I have had to move to using {{Sister project}} because {{Wikisource}} does not have the required functionality. I shall look out for further developments because some very clever coding will be needed. Thincat (talk) 13:13, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

• Template:Archive2023 December 7 – Archive ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
• Template:Automatic_archive_navigator2023 December 7 – Automatic_archive_navigator ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
• Template:Archive_navigation2023 December 7 – Archive_navigation ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )

  I've ported the missing parameters from {{Archive}} to Module:Automatic archive navigator/sandbox. I'm in favor of renaming the module and changing {{Archive}} to use it, while redirecting {{Automatic_archive_navigator}} to Archive. I'd really appreciate if a template-editor could give this a look. — mw (talk) (contribs) 21:22, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

  Check out the discussion at Template talk:Automatic archive navigator about whether or not these parameters should be ported over. |prev= and |next= from {{archive nav}} will definitely need to be added though. --Trialpears (talk) 21:48, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

  I wasn't aware of that discussion, thanks. If it turns out that they shouldn't be ported, feel free to revert my edits. I'll look into the other params later.— mw (talk) (contribs) 22:14, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Meta

• None currently

To convert

Templates for which the consensus is that they ought to be converted to some other format are put here until the conversion is completed.

• Template:Malaysian_party_colour2022 January 6 – Malaysian_party_colour ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
  • Both of the above need to have their entries added to the module. Hopefully this can be semi-automated by the same process that was used with the /meta templates. --Gonnym (talk) 10:21, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
    • Probably not, as these uses (see for example 2005_Pengkalan_Pasir_by-election#Election_results) call an acronym which then triggers the colour to be returned. Each acronym will need to be paired up with the related party, added to the module, and then swapped in the related articles to use (hopefully something other than) {{Malaysian election result}} with the newer values. I haven't looked into it enough to know how much can be automated, but "not much" is my initial read of it. Primefac (talk) 18:33, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

      Template:Malaysian party colour/name/default and Template:Malaysian party colour/colour/default/sandbox updated and ready. The only party names I left as is were the ones I couldn't find an en.wiki article to confirm spelling, etc. But if others feel differently feel free to add them. The party color should be synced when everything is ready for a bot to help as the calling templates have a "#" in them and Module:Political party also sends them with it. Gonnym (talk) 21:09, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

• Template:Infobox_comics_character_and_title2023 July 16 – Infobox_comics_character_and_title ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
• Template:In_Crimea2023 October 3 – In_Crimea ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
• Template:Systemic_bias2023 October 9 – Systemic_bias ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
• Template:Years_in_the_People's_Republic_of_China2023 October 11 – Years_in_the_People's_Republic_of_China ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
• Template:Years_in_the_Republic_of_China2023 October 11 – Years_in_the_Republic_of_China ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
• Template:Koreanic_languages2023 October 13 – Koreanic_languages ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
• Template:Hangul2023 October 25 – Hangul ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
  • For this template, is it possible to substitute all uses of it with Template:Korean with the labels parameter set to no? The labels param because otherwise we'd get a ton of repeat language labels; it's much easier to enable the first use than it is to disable every other use.toobigtokale (talk) 00:29, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

To substitute

Templates for which the consensus is that all instances should be substituted (e.g. the template should be merged with the article or is a wrapper for a preferred template) are put here until the substitutions are completed. After this is done, the template is deleted from template space.

• None currently

To orphan

These templates are to be deleted, but may still be in use on some pages. Somebody (it doesn't need to be an administrator, anyone can do it) should fix and/or remove significant usages from pages so that the templates can be deleted. Note that simple references to them from Talk: pages should not be removed. Add on bottom and remove from top of list (oldest is on top).

• None currently

Ready for deletion

Templates for which consensus to delete has been reached, and for which orphaning has been completed, can be listed here for an administrator to delete. Remove from this list when an item has been deleted.

• None currently